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Interesting Posts from the IKWF message board
about parent and coaches behavior.
Posted by
parent
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1/25/2002, 11:30 am
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With one more year to go until High School, we are seriously considering
switching to the Middle School/IESA wrestling program. The decision, is
ultimately, our son's, but in light of recent coaching events, we feel
the need as parents to step in and guide our son on his decision. At
what point does a coach have a right to belittle or berate a child (at
any age or any sport)? Does the IKWF endorse this type of coaching? Or
for that matter, do they endorse any type of coaching? To the best of my
knowledge, $25.00 is all it takes to make or break a wrestler. Maybe the
IKWF should consider screening some of these so-called coaches. You
might be surprised at what a background check could find. At the very
least, a pre-season coaching clinic should be mandatory before a coaches
card is so easily handed out. Not a clinic to show wrestling moves, but
on the right and wrong way of coaching. You'd have to be lying if you
said you never saw a coach lose their temper.
Being a part of the IKWF for nearly 7 years has been a true
eye-opener into the world of youth sports and youth coaching. Don't get
me wrong, we have had our share of wonderful coaches over the years.
Their names need not be mentioned, because a good coach doesn't need the
recognition that this message board brings. They know who they are, and
more importantly, my son knows who they are. They are the coaches my son
will remember all his life. They are the ones who taught him not only to
wrestle, but how to win and how to lose. We all have had
coaches/teachers/mentors like this in our own lives. When we look back,
we still remember with a smile a simple compliment they gave, or the
'sorry-you-lost' pat on your back. I challenge all the coaches to be the
coach that these young people will remember with a smile.
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Re: Something to think about
Posted by
Jaguar
on
1/25/2002, 1:38 pm
, in reply to "Something
to think about"
64.51.177.194
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The worst offenders I have seen are fathers with their own children.
That aside, even requiring a course or other criteria to coach will not
eliminate the problem, nor is the problem unique to wrestling. We all
know about the soccer coaches, the little league coaches, etc. In our
local little league, they require team managers to go through a course.
It does NOT weed out the bad coaches. In fact, it only some legitimacy
to them.
I agree that it is a problem. Perhaps the answer is in we ALL react
when we see a coach or even a parent being abusive. If we do not
tolerate it and do not put up with it, it will become less frequent.
Look at the way smoking has gone from being acceptable anywhere, any
time, to being shunned in many if not most places. It came from gradual
social pressure and people like you speaking out.
Finally, you have a point about the IESA. While the fact that a team
is IESA does not guarantee that the coach will not be abusive, there is
some public accountability there. Unfortunately, there is also no
guarantee that the coach will actually have any knowledge of wrestling
or be able to teach it to the kids. You take what you get. The IKWF has
taken a positive step this year in requiring coached cards to be
displayed at tournaments so that coaches who act inappropriately toward
an official can be held accountable. I see no reason why abusive
behavior exhibited toward a kid should not be treated the same way.
Almost anyone can have a bad moment that they later regret, but coaches
who are repeatedly identified as being abusive, perhaps, should be
banned from coaching.
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Re: Something to think about
Posted by
Jeff
on
1/25/2002, 12:51 pm
, in reply to "Something
to think about"
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Being a coach of 20 years of kids, I get upset with other coaches who
extremely downgrade kids in public or in front of thier teamates for not
getting a move right or getting caught or simply making a mistake. It
does no good for anyone or the sport. To these coaches I ask have you
ever made a mistake, how good were you at this age and how would it make
you feel to have some crazed coach or parent screaming at you and
telling you that you are a worthless, have you ever worked your best
that you have and still come up short. To these Coaches, Maybe you
should get on that mat and see how tough you are and when you are
breathing hard, bruised and banged up maybe injuried have your Mom or
Dad tell you how lousy you are. If you are one of these coaches that
abuse young men and women I am sure we can find some good wrestlers to
take you to the mat and see how you like the abuse!!!! I have seen many
fine coaches in IKWF and parents also unfortunatley there are others
that are terrible and I have seen good officaiting take care of this
problem. My question is where is the IKWF Officials and sponsers when
this happen. If you would bar a few people that act this way wouldn't
you help the sport. Wrestling is one of the best sports I have been
around and I applaude the coaches that uphold the sportsmanship of it.
This is a kids sport lets not forget this. Some of these nasty coaches
that coach kids will never coach anything above this level nobody would
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Re: Something to think about
Posted by
Parent
on
1/25/2002, 1:43 pm
, in reply to "Re:
Something to think about"
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Jeff,
A appreciate your message and have witnessed these actions in the
past and today.
To the parents and coaches, before you verbally abuse an athlete
consider your actions ! Your kids will never trust you if you continue
to act in this manner.
I for one will step up and bring attention to you, if I see you
acting in this manner !
Wrestling is the most grueling sport on earth, not many kids work as
hard as your athlete, if these young men/women continue in this sport
they will increase thier chances to become successful contributors to
this society.
Just remember, its thier choice to wrestle and win or lose be there
to support thier efforts. If you do, they will become better and be much
happier people.
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some bash clubs
Posted by
jeff
on
1/25/2002, 11:02 pm
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Oswego, Hinsdale,Wheaton, Huskies, Tri City, Celtics, Joliet, Lockport,
Downers,OaK Lawn, St. Bedes, Badgers, Westmont, Southsiders, Oak Forest,
Orland Park, Addison, Hilltoppers, Lemont, Crown Point, Naperville,
Mattoon, SJO, Wisconsin, Yorkville,and a few more. This is just of the
top of my head. There could be a few more. We will be wrestling on 15
mats. Eight in the main gym and 7 in the field house. Wresling should
finish at 2:30. Please pick up your coaches sheet at admission table.
Wrestling does start at 8:30.seniors main gym and 7/8 in the field
house........
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