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Seeding Criteria for the Mat Classic State Championships

Re: Jim Meyerhoff JR, can you answer this?
Posted by JM on 11/29/2005, 11:04 am, in reply to "Jim Meyerhoff JR, can you answer this?"

There are only three possible brackets when we have the 4 regional format and we wrestle 1 v 4 and 2 v 3. These brackets are randomly drawn, then rotated through the weights.
Bracket A = 103, 125, 140, 160, 215
Bracket B = 112, 130, 145, 171, 275
Bracket C = 119, 135, 152, 189

When the regional results are reported, the only "seeding" considerations are regional Champions who are past WA state placers.

If the bracket randomly drawn for that weight does not allow two regional champs/placers to be on opposite halves of the bracket, then one of the other two brackets is chosen.

If there are 3 or 4 reg champs/returning placers, the bracket must have the two highest placers on opposite halves. So placers 1-1-4-7 would have 1 and 7 on one side, 1 and 4 on the other. Placers 2-3-4-5 would have 2 and 5 on one side, 3 and 4 on the other. Placers 1-4-5 would have 1 on one half, 4 and 5 on the other.

A long explanation to say that it is really a simple process. It takes more time to compile the regional results on Sunday morning than it does to put the bracket together.

I haven't followed the entire thread, but from reading garfield's explanation, he is correct. Unless there was another champ back at 119 to be on the opposite side of Owen, or two 2nd placers, Owen and Smith would be split if they both won regionals. They could also meet in the quarters if one were to get 2nd/3rd at regionals for some reason (eg: Vombaur/Rodriguez in 2004).

171 would be an interesting one to follow if all the preseason rumors are true:
Criswell (1 and 2) and Buck (4) are in the same region, so only 1 would be the champ.
Swartz (1 and 3) is in region 1 along with Moerhle (8 in 04 - is he at that weight?)
Zumwalt (7) is in region 4.
Region 2 won't have a champ as returning placer unless Schlecht (nope-160), or one of the 152 pounders goes up to 171 (Pitsch, Giovannini, Stokke) and wins regionals.

If Criswell, Swartz and Zumwalt win regionals it would mean that Criswell (1st and 2nd) would be on one side and Swartz (1st and 3rd) and Zumwalt would be on the other. That would also mean that Buck would be 2nd and would be on the opposite side of Criswell, and would meet one of the other two in the quarters. If Moerhle goes 171 he would be on the opposite Swartz. Of course if Criswell or Swartz don't win regionals for some reason, there is a 50% chance they would meet in the quarterfinals on Friday night.

Good thing we still have an entire season to enjoy prior to these scenarios playing out.

I hope that helps.